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03 - Yao-ized Seiko SKX007K11820 views*Movement & Specs: 7S26, Automatic, non winding, non hacking
*Chosen by: Cafe (Evan)
*Why?: A $205 customized watch that gives the rugged Seiko Diver a British MoD dive watch look.
We need a new photo of this watch! Have one? Email dude.with.watches@gmail.com.
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Old Top Dog- Oris TT1 Diver Titanium8278 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824
*Chosen by: TMK (Ted)
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Old Top Dog- Seiko White/Orange/Black Knight (auto or quartz)11876 views*Movement & Specs: 7S26, Automatic, non winding, non- hacking; Quartz: 7N36
*Chosen by: Bjorn Keizers
*Why: It's a high-quality watch in all respects. Superb fit & finish allround, outstanding bracelet, nice weight, excellent movement - everything we love in the Monster in a dressier, friendlier package. Available in white, black & orange dials and with both the 7s26 movement as well as the quartz 7N36 movement.
Additional Comments (paulc): This is one of several Seiko 7S26/36/35 divers and it represents them all in terms of a best buy. This might help people new to watches who look at the Top 20 as a place to pick one out.
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Old Top Dog- STOWA Antea Automatic (not limited edition)7248 views*Movement & Specs: Handwound ETA 2660, originally designed for a ladies wristwatch, Beats at 28,800 vph and does not hack. 39 mm across excluding crown, 7.5 mm thick, 48 mm lug tip to lug tip, 20 mm between the lugs
*Chosen by: Micha, Bas and Wen
*Why?: Since the Nomos Tangente is about to be "banned" to the "old dogs" list, I thought another German watch should take its place. The Stowa Antea LE has the same clean Bauhaus looks as the Nomos, but at EUR 285 (incl Shipping, it's much more affordable than the Nomos (the basic Tangente costs EUR 690).
We need a new photo of this watch! Have one? Email dude.with.watches@gmail.com.
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Old Top Dog- Tissot Seastar 1000M9779 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2 movement, Water Resistant 300 meters; Stainless Steel case - 45mm diameter, 16mm thick, Sapphire crystal, solid link braclet with hollow end links, Display back attached with 6 screws.
*Chosen by: Dan (Zeb)
*Why?: First off, it's great looks and large size. The faceted shape of the case with it's sharp edges is mean looking, and the very square and angular bracelet add to the tough look. It fits right in with the tastes of todays WIS. Second, where else can you get a Swiss made 300 meter diver with automatic movement and sapphire crystal for around $400.00 USD retail? I'm truly amazed at the value this watch represents.
Summary: A Swiss made monster of a dive watch for only twice the Under $200 limit. It can't be beat.
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Old Top Dog: Citizen Skyhawk (ECODRIVE)2438 views*Movement & Specs: Caliber 650
*Chosen by: Joon
*Why?: I believe the Skyhawk is the one of the most versatile & useful watches around, especially if you travel or need to know times in various countries like I do. The preset and quick change of time zones is a wonderful feature. It can be had even from ADs for about $200 and for $150 or less used. Since it's Eco-Drive it's virtually maintenance free!
We need a new photo of this watch! Have one? Email dude.with.watches@gmail.com.
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Old Top Dog: Sandoz Singapore Explorer2667 views*Movement & Specs: (a) Sapphire crystal with cyclops, (b) Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement, (c) Screw-down crown, (d) Solid stainless link "Oyster" band, (e) Excellent fit and finish on dial, case, bezel and band
*Chosen by: John Lind
*Why?: The "Singapore" Sandoz Explorer is a great value for under $250 with classic style, excellent materials, proven workhorse movement, and a well executed fit/finish that creates a good looking, reliable, and quite durable watch. Dial and hand style are that of a Rolex Air King, but in slightly larger 36mm traditional Explorer size with date (the Air King is 34mm without date). The example depicted in the photo has the centers of the band and end links polished which dresses it up a little. Stock, the centers are brush finished. Note the shape of the case between the lugs, and the end links. If you want to dress it up more, and make it wear heavier, there are aftermarket, very heavy solid link "President" bands with the same radius on the ends that will fit this case (found only on the Singapore version of the Sandoz Explorer).
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Old Top Dog: Zodiac Astrographic 20002303 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824
*Chosen By: John Lind
* Why?: The Astrographic 2000 is a collectible commemorative of Zodiac's unique and distinctive mystery dial Astrographics that were introduced in 1971. Their hallmark is an orbiting red dot seconds marker and floating hour/minute hands that have no (easily) visible means of attachement. In 2000, while Zodiac was struggling financially and ownership rapidly changed hands a couple times, a limited production of no more than 500 each were made with black, blue and silver dials in square and round cases. The Astrographic 2000 is an update of the original concept using modern materials, design and construction, with solid stainless cases, heavy solid link bracelets, sapphire crystals, and high grade 25j 28.8k bph ETA 2824-2 movements. With a MSRP of $1295, it broke the $1000 PMW limit, but street prices when first released were under that. They can be bought now (in 2006) for under $500, if one can be found, and there are still a small handful of NOS to be had. "In the flesh," they are a beauty to behold. With Fossil's ownership of Zodiac since 2002, and the nearly complete elimination of mechanicals from Zodiac's collections, it's unlikely we'll see another mechanical Astrographic in the foreseeable future.
We need a new photo of this watch! Have one? Email dude.with.watches@gmail.com.
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Old Top Dog: 4 Star Maritime2635 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824
*Chosen by: Wen
*Why?: The 4Star Maritime is a beautifully styled and finished 42mm aviator automatic with display back. ETA 2824 movement. And it comes with that Jurgen tropic strap that you would probably add anyway. Great buy at $329.
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Old Top Dog: Alba Diver1835 views*Movement & Specs: 7S26, Automatic, non winding, non- hacking
*Chosen by: jeffc, AdamInNYC
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Old Top Dog: Alpha Grenade3499 views*Movement & Specs: 21J Japanese Miyota automatic movement
*Chosen by: bjohnson
*Why?: Big stainless steel case. Stainless steel bracelet with solid links. 21J Japanese Miyota automatic movement. Lots of wrist "presence" for well under $100.
What pmwf is all about.
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Old Top Dog: Casio G-Shock GW-56002985 views*Movement & Specs: Casio Quartz, atomic
*Chosen by: Adam in NYC
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Old Top Dog: Citizen Nighthawk EcoDrive3005 views*Movement & Specs: Eco Drive Miyoata Cal. 0870
*Chosen by: Wen
*Why?: The Nighthawk is the modern interpretation of the aviator watch: solar powered dual time zone with a flight computer (slide rule). Unique design, large size and great quality. All for less than $200.
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Old Top Dog: Débaufré Nav-B4582 views*Movement & Specs: Unitas handwind
*Chosen by: old skool
*Why?:
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Old Top Dog: Elysee Power Reserve3309 views*Movement & Specs: 47mm diameter excl. crown; 12mm thick; Stainless steel; Mineral glass; 21 jewels automatic & hand wind, non-hacking; Date; Power Reserve meter; Small seconds hand at 6
*Chosen by: john (NL)
* Why?: The reason I like this watch is the massive size of it. I don't think I have ever seen a watch this size and weight. It's a real PMW with a RMW appearance (less than $100).
ADMIN NOTE: Still available new as of Jan. 9, 2009.
We need a new photo of this watch! Have one? Email dude.with.watches@gmail.com.
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Old Top Dog: Erken "Mechanik" Panerai homage2737 views(Out Jan. 2004)
*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: Geoff aka slicefixer
*Why?: Best value in a watch I've ever owned.....IF you like the Panerai "look".
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Old Top Dog: Fortis Official Cosmonaut GMT1885 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2893-2, 21 jewels.Two time-zone registers, 200 m. water resist
*Chosen by: cwm38 (Charles McCoy)
*Why?: The Fortis Official Cosmonaut GMT. A real military-pilots-cosmonaut watch. ETA 2893-2, 21 jewels. Two time-zone registers, 200 m. water resist, bi-directional bezel, Sapphire crystal, All SS satin finish, screw in pins in bracelet. Overall quality and operation is faultless. Discounts available.
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Old Top Dog: Invicta 89264232 views*Movement & Specs: Miyota 8215
*Chosen by: John Holbrook II
*Why?: The 8926 has gained a near legendary status on the Internet with it's reputation of being one of the greatest values ever in watches. The 21 jewel automatic movement in this watch is rock solid and etremely accurate. The stainless steel bracelet is of the highest quality and has even drawn praise from Rolex owners. The Invicta 8926 retails for $315.00, but can be easily obtained on the Internet for $100.00 - I've personally never heard of anyone who was disapointed by this watch.
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Old Top Dog: M-163199 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: Waco Kid
*Why?: $398, stainless steel O&W case, ETA 2824-2, screw-down crown and back, domed mineral glass, Marathon dial with Tritium vials that glow all night and day for a dozen years, any strap/bracelet you want, GMT or 60 min bezel, 200 m. A unique and practical watch that can go anywhere. Image stolen from Westcoastime.com.
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Old Top Dog: Marcello C Nettuno32697 views*Movement & Specs: Automatic ETA 2824-2 with date function
*Chosen by: Paulo
*Why?: Nettuno 3 is the improved 2004 Marcello C model that replaces the no longer available award winning Nettuno 2 (voted "best watch under €500.00" by a German watch magazine in 2003). One of the nicest classic diver watch design and a timeless timepiece, with a great quality and price.
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Old Top Dog: Marcello C Tridente2493 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: TMK (Ted)
*Why?: Big, tough, accurate (2824-2 movement) and stylish...a superb bracelet and sapphire crystal. Hard to find a better 1000m dive watch for under $1,000.00.
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Old Top Dog: Moscow Classic Amphibia3728 views*Movement & Specs: Molnija
*Chosen by: jaym
*Why?: this is a cool watch, and it's a lot of bang for the buck, that's why. has a lot of the appeal of the Panerai, but it's an original, not a copy or homage. it's quite big, but due to the short lugs it's comfortable to wear. the Molnija pocket watch handwind movement is a joy to wind by it's big knurled crown. a real head turner but not "blingy".
readily available for under $220, less if you shop victoriously
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Old Top Dog: Nomos Tangente2561 views*Movement & Specs: NOMOS movement 1 T
*Chosen by: Wouter
*Why?: Nomos comes from the Greek and means adherence to a set of laws or order. This describes the nature and working principle of this watch. NOMOS watches are mechanical, hand-wound watches of good quality and clear design. The high precision timepieces, in formal design a combination of Werkbund and Bauhaus, a great sucess by german graphics designer Suzy Guenter carry on the flawless tradition of fine watchmaking in Glashuette, Saxony. The design focuses particularly on the watch's functional performance and legibility.
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Old Top Dog: Ollech & Wajs MP3367 views*Movement & Specs: AS 2063
*Chosen by: Alejandro Rojas
*Why?: The Ollech & Wajs MP is a really nice watch. Very easy to read. Good size, all stainless steel, glow great in the dark, and the AS2063 movement has proved to be very accurate. the price: only US$ 149.
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Old Top Dog: Omega Seamaster (Vintage or OOP)1827 views*Movement & Specs: Omega Cal. 420
*Chosen by: TakesALickin' (Jeff)
* Why?: Omega Seamaster are some of the most readily available vintage watches to be found today (both to buy, and to find parts for), and are great bargains to boot. Solid movements, great cases and designs, great dials - almost anyone with a vintage collection has one. It's a classic! It's the '57 T-Bird of the watch world! How can you not have this on the list?!
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Old Top Dog: Omega Speedmaster (Vintage or OOP)2890 views*Movement & Specs: Omega Cal.861 = Lemania 1372, ticking @ 21600 BPH
*Chosen by: Bas
*Why?: About 8 months ago, I bought this Omega Speedmaster Mark II and it's been my favorite watch ever since. This model was only produced between 1970 and 1972. Vintage Omegas are now in the PMW price range, even the vintage Speedmasters can be found for prices well below USD 1000. I paid USD 640 for this one, Add 20 dollar to get the money to the seller, 22 dollar to have the watch sent to my doorstep and 126 USD import duties (that really hurts).
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Old Top Dog: Omega Speedmaster Reduced (Vintage or OOP)2970 views*Movement & Specs: Caliber: Omega 3220 (the Omega name for the 2892 coupled to the DD module), Self-winding chronograph movement with rhodium-plated finish, Power Reserve: 40 hours, Reference: 3510.50.00, Hesalite crystal, Stainless steel case, Black dial, water resistance down to: 30 meters/100 feet
*Chosen by: Ron Corimer
*Why?: The Omega Speedmaster Reduced is cosmetically similar to the Omega cal 321 or cal (1)861 Moonwatch complete with Hesalite crystal, but this is where the similarities end.
The Reduced model uses heavily modified and decorated version of "the tractor" ETA 2892 movement as a basis, but the Omega engineers have coupled it to the VERY thin Dubois Dépraz Chronograph module. This lends the Reduced it's very slim profile and allows the watch to be produced more inexpensively than traditional column wheel or shuttle-cam chronographs, without the loss of functionality or reliability. This, of course, results in both the "reduced" model's smaller size and lower profile than its predecessors. Additionally, the watch is commonly sold within the PMW pricing limit, often much lower.
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Old Top Dog: Orient "Beast" (Yellow, Orange, Red, Blue, Black)2393 views*Movement & Specs: Orient In-house Caliber EX04 with Power Reserve, not handwinding, not hacking
*Chosen by: Shawn
*Why?: Price- For about 125$ U.S. delivered, you get.. Choices- Blue, Red, Yellow, Orange, Black.. Movement- The Orient In-house Caliber EX04 with Power Reserve, is not handwinding, and not hacking, but I have found it to be highly accurate for this price range. It also seems quite robust and has taken a decent amount of abuse at my hands. The combination of power reserve complication, accuracy, robustness make this very attractive for the price. Display Back- A nice feature to enjoy owning an automatic watch. combined with 200m water resist this is very nice. Shrouded case- many of use are very fond of the seiko divers with shrouded cases (300m quartz pro, 600m auto pro, 600m quartz pro, 200m pro, H558). While there is no separate shroud attachment, the intrinsic design of the case offers shroud protection to the bezel at the 3-5 and 9-11 positions. Rotating Dive Bezel- very firm ratcheting unidirectional action. superior to many of the current citizen dive bezels. Screw down crown with guard.
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Old Top Dog: Orient Star GMT2973 views*Movement & Specs: Caliber FE03-A000
*Chosen by: Mike Stuffler
*Why?: Where do you get a GMT for USD 250?
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Old Top Dog: Orient Star Power Reserve 2EX01003M3010 views*Movement & Specs: Orient in-house Caliber ER (487)
*Chosen by: GMF (Gary M. Frazer)
* Why?: Power reserve complication, decorated manufacture movement, classic style, solid link bracelet with deployant clasp. Where else can you find a Japanese (or Swiss) watch with all that for less than $300.00 US?
Moved to Old Top Dogs January 2008
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Old Top Dog: Orient World Timer2391 views*Movement & Specs: Caliber Orient FA00
*Chosen by: Paulo
* Why?: This is an elegant GMT(inner bezel rotates, acting as the 24h hand) that can be had for less than $400. A superbly finished timepiece on a 3mm thick bracelet with double button clasp.
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Old Top Dog: Oris BC3 Diver1894 views(Out Jan. 2004)
*Movement & Specs: ETA 2836 with day/date feature
*Chosen by: Evan BC3 (non Diver) & Kramer (Diver)
*Why?: High quality and inexpensive pilot style watch made by Oris, emphasis > on "made by Oris".
For a mere 100$ more, it seems reasonable.
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Old Top Dog: Oris TT1 Diver2145 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: tradescant (David)
*Why?: Clean simple elegant design. Hands and indices have a sleek 'flowing' look to them. A clear easy to read face if ever I saw one. Comes with a flush fitting rubber strap in various colours, or if preferred, a stainless steel bracelet with divers extension. Sapphire crystal. Water resistant to 200 metres - more than most of us will ever need. Not for the faint hearted at 44mm, but the design makes it look smaller than really it is.
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Old Top Dog: Orsa Quartz Diver4504 views*Movement & Specs: Swiss Ronda Quartz Caliber 515
*Chosen by: Ed Brandwein
*Why?: $105.00 for looks and build quality like this. A real PMW (Poor Man's Watch)
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Old Top Dog: Orsa SeaAngler3691 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: Tom P
* Why?: I think Martin Berg's SEA ANGLER should be considered. Now that it's made in Switzerland, and still available for under $500, it is one of the best quality watches I've handled in under that price range. With a 2824-2 movement and several dial colors, as well as a limited production run, these 44mm watches can not be mistaken for any other watch out there!
*** No longer available new - Moved out of Canidates 1/9/09 ***
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Old Top Dog: Poljot Aviator Handwind (or Alarm)2773 views*Movement & Specs: Alarm: Poljot Caliber 1612; Handwind: Movement - 2614 Poljot Manual winding, 17 jewels
balance semi-period 21 600 a/h, 38 power reserve fully wound
*Chosen by: TMK (Ted)
*Why?: The Poljot Aviator Alarm has a 1612, 18 jewel hand wound mechanical movement that is currently running +2/day, three weeks out of the box. The dial and bezel are an attractive combination of black face and sandblasted stainless steel. The shapely hands and clearly legible markers are coated with Super Luminova; accordingly, the luminosity is nothing short of sensational. The original leather strap is superior in terms of comfort and perfectly compliments the watch. The alarm is functional and definintely gets your attention...tone-wise, so-so. Additionally, the Poljot was the first watch in space and history counts!!! Combine the above with an on the wrist price of $69.95 (NOTE: not current pricing) and you have one unbeatable PMW, worthy of the recognition of this august body. I have nothing against the Seiko Quartz dress watch per say...I just think it is time to update our list with a bit more style, pizzazz and international flavor!!!
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Old Top Dog: Poljot Okeah1991 viewsMovement: Poljot 3133
Chosen by: Micha & Paulo
Why?: I'd like to suggest the Poljot Okeah, because it offers an unique looking watch for under $200. The Poljot 3133 movement is among Poljot's best.
Poljot chronographs with the 3133 movement are available starting bellow $200, making them one of the most interesting proposals for poor men chronographs presently. This Shturmanskie is an elegant timepiece that won a "beauty contest" in PMWF (a poll I made with 4 Poljot chronographs) and can be had for lit
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Old Top Dog: Pulsar Solar Diver PUA1112125 views*Movement & Specs: Pulsar PUA111 Solar 4000 Quartz Diver's Watch
*Chosen by: Paperboy Part Deux
*Why?: Just an excellent value in a solar-powered quartz diving watch. Weighs as much, perhaps even more than the chunky Seiko Monster, yet wears very comfortably on the wrist. Very accurate quartz movement...just +5 seconds in just over three weeks of use...with a tight seconds hand that hits the chapter ring marks dead on. The crown may seem a little odd at first, but one quickly gets used to it, and it screws down to boot. The dial is simple in shimmering blue, with just a date complication and excellent lume on the markers and hands. This watch can normally be found for around $100 on the 'net, which in and of itself is a great price for what you get, but sometimes can be found for around $60 to $70 when blowout sales are taking place. If you have to have one quartz diver, this might be it.
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Old Top Dog: Sandoz Diver 2003 Model3365 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2824-2
*Chosen by: waypoint (Colin)
*Why?: The MOST bang for the buck IMHO
- Sapphire crystal with a working cyclops
- Quality of finish on the full SS case and improved screwdown crown & back
- Great bracelet; solid links
- ETA 2824 with SANDOZ trademark decoration; assumed until Reto returns =)
- 100 WR
- Classic design
- Product distribution-wise; I am sure it will come round to your part of the world soon enough
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Old Top Dog: Sandoz Explorer2456 views*Movement & Specs: ETA 2836-2 with unused Day and Date mechanism
*Chosen by: Evan & Rafel
*Why?: Sandoz Explorer-like....allows us to enjoy classic design at a more than modest price!
Solid link bracelet, Sapphire Front and Display Back, "Explorer" looks.
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